Thats ridiculous . o His father worked as a Parts Manager for a Ford dealership. Pro-family, pro-killer. So sad. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. I bet so was Chris mom. Her version is a very twisted version. From CWs perspective, when SWs *parents* came and stayed in their home *for over a year*, that was more evidence that SWs parents/side of the family would be a major part of their lives, while his own family, whom he was very close to, would not. Would you let her walk around a tall building with no railing? Cadle, Anna, Kathleen, Jamie's old girlfriends. SW couldnt be responsible for doing *everything* to make a friendly relationship happen!, yes, she could. Do you remember Neil Entwistle who tried to say his wife killed their child before herself? She went to North Carolina for six weeks at the very end of June. It falls apart even further when you consider he didnt only kill Shanann, but terminated the pregnancy and also killed his own children. Their rage is deep seated and ends in a final act of murder, which seem totally out of character to all who felt they knew them. If Chris Watts had simmering resentments, then the enmity between his wife and his mother could only have turned on the heat even further. Dont ever babysitok? Jamie Watts Williams job connection to nutgate Am I the only one that finds it strange that Jamie is a respiratory therapist? She waited for that opportunity to do something so evil and ugly when nobody was around to see it. Chris just saw red and let his moms words take over.. I have removed the annoying background noise from this interview because many people couldn't understand what Watts was saying.On February 18, 2019, three ag. But couple all those angry feelings and then having to pay attention to 2 toddlers and work a taxing job, have a wife who is not really a good match for you who wants to separate you from your familyif he wasnt the type for this kind of lifestyle I could see how that would drive someone crazy. "Happy . As Shanann asked her too. She was, she was you and I know its so hard for you. Shanann should have wiped this woman from her life, says a lot about her character that she still had a single thing to do with this woman. Kathleen CW's sister Jamie Throughout all my reading of the case I've never seen much about his sister Jamie (who I believe was Jamie Watts Williams according to SW's fb). How could she be so without human empathy that Chris Wattss mother says its okay if he killed Shannan? Inside edition= Fake News. Copyright 2015 - 2021 Original Media Group Corporation. As we now know, it took the Watts parents all of two seconds to give Chris a pass for killing Shannan. I do not condone the murders but i can see why this terrible disaster happened. Nonetheless why risk it? Thats what regular folks do. His father Clifford Entwistle has just written a book saying hes innocent, they watched the movie Shutter Island the first night they had sex. Celestes nut allergy was a bunch of BS. Would you let a child rapist babysit your kid? Yes, a lot of mom denial. They have no history with law enforcement,domestic violence or mental problems. There are two camps: pro-innocent-victims and pro-murderer. THAT DOES NOT GIVE CHRIS THE RIGHT TO DO WHAT HE DID. CHRIS WATTS / Is This His Sister Jamie Lynn Williams AKA 'Trinket78' 4,581 views Jun 16, 2019 60 Dislike Share Save ParadiseMedia 4.72K subscribers CHRIS WATTS / Is This His Sister Jamie. Proof is in the planning, deliberate smothering of his 2 little girls TWICE, and murder of tgeir mother and baby Nico.all planned weeks in advance. Everyone closely connected to this dreadful situation seem v strange, So not so sure about your Rzucek normal family scenario. Yeah Gabby, and it sure is too bad that we cant clear this all up and move on well we can, but Shanan, CeeCee and Bella cannot because Chris Watts choked them to death. That was not an excuse to kill her by any means but she was fairly toxic herself. I understand you might not like your mother in law and your mother in law very well could be a shrew, terrible woman like Cindy. Not the other way around. Exclusive Visit with the Colorado Killer Chris Watts and His Last 3 Living Relatives.The exclusive also showcases Watts' sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, who mana. 2 counts Cindy KNEW about the nut allergy, but did not believe it was serious, so she left chocolate out for the 3-year-old to get into and fed her peanut ice cream. I feel so terrible for the family of Shannon and the children. He was sentenced to three consecutive life terms in prison plus 84 years in Nov. 2018 for his heinous crimes. By clicking Accept, you consent to the use of ALL the cookies. My family didnt drink. No, thats not quite right either. His father would not use physical discipline, but would raise his voice. Shannan would have gone down with a fight if she were awake. You mentioned the Lacy Peterson case in passing, but the comparisons are far closer. We dont have to like or even try to get with *in-laws*.there could be many reasons behindWhy. These people dont even mention the precious children that their son killed WORST GRANDPARENTS EVERRRRRR!!!! Okay? In March 2021, it was revealed that the pair were still in contact while he serves five life sentences at the Dodge Correctional Institution in Waupun, Wisconsin. And was it just me or was it in poor taste (to say the least), Jamie talking to Chris about her kids and what they've been doing, pretending as if he HADN'T JUST MURDERED HIS OWN CHILDREN, JAMIE'S OWN NIECES?! He's also said it over the phone to people. I continue to be intrigued with the Lev-el MLM and their (or perhaps Shananns?) So an attack of Shanann [any attack] feels like an attack of who they are, and their belief systems. WATTS [Licks lips]: Im so happy that theyre here. And the whole time Shannan is dealing with this, Chris is cuddling back home with another woman. Shanann was trying so damn hard to film a happy family moment, even calling out Poppa or Grandpa. Chris parents never looked back at her, waved or said one word. She was scapegoat because she established boundaries. I just read that: The women had all drawn lines in the sand and that takes a toll on everyone, I think. Shananns the root of evil? I think ,Chris killed his daughters because one of them saw their dead mother rolled up in their sheets. Growing up, he lived with his mother, father, and sister (JAMIE). He wanted his own wild child to have another run around the paddock. I think he hated Shanann at the moment he killed her. Would you put your child, no seatbelt, in a car with a drunk driver? Haha, that was my own mother. SW would have been smart (and kind and generous and all those other nice qualities she did not display toward her husband) in acknowledging how important CWs family was *to him* and making a strenuous effort to include them and build a friendly relationship with them. I left the project because as I have publicly stated I believe his primary targets were his children. But she disregarded the allergies. You usually tell that person and give them the option of asking someone else. We know because the babysitter told the police all this during her interview with them. It doesnt end here. Was Shannan a saint? Throughout all my reading of the case Ive never seen much about his sister Jamie (who I believe was Jamie Watts Williams according to SWs fb). And he knows he is being recorded. Estranged from the family? These men are what is know as Family Annihilators. All Rights Reserved. Its one thing to say you will do something and then change your mind. 11 mo. During her sons trial, Cindy added, I have always loved you and I still do. Divorce would have left them all with new lives. But I think shes was the Root of all Evil. Everyone would be so sad for him that his family were gone and so pleased that he went on to find a new woman (Vomit). True Crime Analysis, Breakthroughs, Insights & Discussions Hosted by Bestselling Author Nick van der Leek. He became intolerant of these ongoing family issues once he started his affair with Nikki. Shannan seems like the type of person who would be really difficult to live with and difficult to satisfy. With your comment where you know . Im not attempting to conflate the two choices, just the fact of the toll it took on them. She should have wrote them ALL off from day one. I treat her like I do my daughter. Thank you for putting my thoughts into words (so eloquently). Cindy Watts probably pressured her not to partake. They lived in different States and only had to put up with each other for a little while. Especially those girls..Indeed she loathed Shanann, but not her grand daughters. Chris Watts, 35, has revealed details of his pregnant wife's murder in a bomb Chris Watts rebellious sister Jamie drops Watts - Was loved by Chris Watts Wifehttps://reachableshop.com/https://www.instagram.com/reachableshop/On August 15, 2016, exactly two years prior to the day #ChrisWatts would confess to murder, #ShanannWatts welcomed her amazing, awesome and down-to-earth sister-in-law Jamie to the #Thrive by #LeVel family.Cops: With regard to Chris Watts background and upbringing. What he did was deplorable and disgusting beyond belief. Well that maybe true according to Cindy however please explain the 80 bridal invitations that never got mailed in the attempts to embarrass Shanann with no one showing up. Considering dates are set in advance, there was probably more to it then Jamie not getting off work. Privacy Policy. But to restrict somebody and cut them off of their family is wrong. I didnt get all with my In Laws at all. In 2019, Watts told author Cherlyn Cadle, who penned her explosive book Letters from Christopher, If I had not met Nikki, I would never have killed my family., The Colorado native allegedly tried to cause Shanann to miscarry their son Nico, giving her the powerful painkiller Oxycodone, after Nichol told Watts she wanted to give him his first son.. Theres nothing to really uncover of why he would have killed his wife! And the nut allergy was something that may have been just one more thing that served to accentuate the obvious animosity between Shanann and Cindy. Maybe for peace . Archived post. Right now doing everything they can, it-it just scares the living crap out of me knowing its come to this. To be honest, I firmly believe Shanann thought she was above all, when in reality she wasnt. Weirdly, he thought that quietly disposing of his family would bring less shame than initiating a divorce -which would make him publicly look like the bad guy. His father worked as a Parts Manager for a Ford dealership. Think of Ahab and Jezebel from the Bible. And you will., It is [hard], killer Chris Watts replied. I feel like he thought hed have better chances of getting away with it after that is if he took his kids life away too. You misfit husband and misfit daughter are the only ones who could and can. Chris Watts is a liar and like all sociopath narcissist did a smear campaign on Shanann. August 1, 2018: Chris Watts' First Day in North Carolina #1yearagotodayCW. Archived post. Isnt it a shame we have to actually defend 2 little girls and their pregnant mommy, after their daddy put them unconscious (no reason to believe they were dead since he didnt kill them the first time) and drowned them in crude oil? Cindy Watts interview with WCNC.com feels genuine, especially this part of the transcript. THEY WERE ALL EVIL in not going. Chris, I forgive you, and your sister forgives you and we will never abandon you.. The Petersons were fairly wealthy when Scott Peterson was born, and he was spoiled and treated like a Golden Child. Nonetheless why risk it? She suffered enough. This is my decision. Cant understand how they just couldnt focus on being nice with each other for a few hours, just for the children. I had a mother in law like Cindy Watts. THANK YOU. ive been thinking about this for a little while but does anyone else think that jamie gave chris the oxy?? I had a mother in law like her. He never expected to be seriously challenged because everyone liked him and Mommy thought he was perfect. A MUM killed alongside her two kids has had her final moments revealed in her evil husband's sick prison letters. Other than wanting to see a trial, its difficult to see him other than as a very tarnished and very pathetic character. Cindy replied: No, I cant lose you. Youre right, many comparisons to be made. I want him to plead not guilty to the children, she said. One of the primary activities at a wedding is to enable the two sides of the family to meet and get to know each other. He had dead eyes as a lad. Does anyone know how the video* of the conversation between Chris Watts and his sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, was leaked to the internet? On the one hand he had his wife complaining, and on the other, a lover selling him dreams. Its probable that she really did not want to be part of the wedding party to begin with (under constant pressure from Cindy). She was human and had flaws just like all of us. Send it to us! Chris Watts 2012 Speech on Communication Speech, Relationship Deterioration and Repair; Chris Watts grew up somewhere on this road on the outskirts of Spring Lake, North Carolina. While Chris' parents have been vocal about their son, his sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, remains silent. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. While Chris parents have been vocal about their son, his sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, remains silent. Even though Ive written three books, I feel weve barely scratched the surface, and I think theres a great big pile of skeletons still stuck in the closet. Interesting hypothesis, but its pretty clear from the interview/interrogation that Chris only starts talking about that scenario *after* the investigator floats the question about ShanAnn doing something to the girls as the reason why he killed her. Video obtained by DailyMail.com shows the moment Chris Watts returned home from burying his wife and disposing of his daughters' bodies in an oil tank only to learn that Shanann's best friend had . Its all in Chriss interview after the conviction and sentencing. What if he killed his (beautiful) children because, in some strange way, he was killing that child in himself, the one he loathed and felt great shame for. I mean, this was planned in advance. No, you dont get that she had a problem. Does the we refer to Ronnie and Jamie Williams [Chris Watts sister] as well? OH NO NO NO Shannan was way to good for this inbred family. She lost her marbles because a kid sat down with another kid and started eating some ice cream they got from the freezer. So, Shannans reaction was on point. Especially when you consider that Cindy couldnt be gracious enough to attend her own sons wedding. I think its the most reasonable one on here. She had many faults within herself. Did Shanann know too? As soon as we intuit a reason, that is a motive, the Shanann camp get very angry. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Its been nearly three years since Chris Watts pleaded guilty to murdering his pregnant wife,Shanann Watts, and their two daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, but his family still isnt convinced hes a killer. I am not doing a book on this, interviews are not books. only a fraction of the reality? Due to lack of knowledge. He is a narcisstic twit and wanted a new life with the GF. I think the whole family dynamics, along with the extended family, was just very toxic. 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But notice that, in the wake of NutGate, Chris commented to ShanAnn that she had put a dagger between him and his *father*. Whatever amount of attention Shanann wasted on this family was to much. ago. "Where the hell. If you nodded your head while saying no is also a lie. Shananns brother cared about everybody, saying he thought he had a brother, but Chriss mother cared more about making excuses for him than what he did, Shananns brother Frankie was charged with child abuse in 2015 or 2016. Theyre right of course, the murder of three members of ones nearest and dearest is an act of madness, but thats not the whole story. Shanann tried to involve these in laws from hell. Growing up, he lived with his mother, father, and sister JAMIE. Your Content is a nonprofit newsroom that investigates abuses of power. This suggests Mothers Day and Fathers Day in 2018, in the Watts home, were hugely significant milestones, particularly with a third baby on the way. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. Have a tip? I think that Shannan tried to make things work while Cindy spent her time trying to show Chris that Shannan wasnt good enough. Likewise, Chris has a sister named Jamie Lyn Williams. Am I the only one that finds it strange that Jamie is a respiratory therapist? We use cookies on our website to give you the most relevant experience by remembering your preferences and repeat visits. I dont think a trial is the only way of getting to those skeletons, though. By clicking Sign Up, you agree to our Terms and Conditions and that you have read our Privacy Policy. Gabby is actually Cindy Watts lmao. Where the hell is she in all this? Oh Remember when we were at the splash party in Colorado? The Watts Family Tapes will premier onFacebook Live Oct. 23 at no cost. Anyone who left a child with the Watts family were completely ignorant of how truly dangerous it was. They absolutely refuse to accept it. My understanding is that the Rzucek family is being harassed by online trolls receiving death threats, even but not the Watts family. CW parents were considered safe and good enough to babysit for up to a fortnight while Cw and Shanann were staying at places like Punta Cana. At 58 seconds in the clip below Cindy Watts seems to have made peace with the fact that her son killed Shanann: CINDY: He did kill her uh[chews gum]but for the kids, no. Firstly, in the Casey Anthony case, Caylee died the day after Fathers Day. She works with patients in home care. During the lengthy sit-down, distraught mother Cindy pleaded to know more about what transpired during the grizzly triple murder but was quickly shot down by Watts. Maybe one day, snapped Watts. My Sister's Closet Suzanne Singer Mr. & Mrs. William . That argument falls apart when you consider Shanann and Cindy didnt get along.

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